TheListener,
Yes, with his writings he's probably helped more than we'll ever know.
i benefitted enormously from reading rvf's book a few years ago, though i missed it not having a scripture index.
so i prepared one for my own use, and recently realised others may also find it useful.
it's a word file, 235 kb.
TheListener,
Yes, with his writings he's probably helped more than we'll ever know.
i benefitted enormously from reading rvf's book a few years ago, though i missed it not having a scripture index.
so i prepared one for my own use, and recently realised others may also find it useful.
it's a word file, 235 kb.
you should send it to Ray... in case there ever might be a second edition (who knows), it might be of use....
I mentioned it to him a year or so ago, but he wasn't bothered.
Maybe he'd already done one, he didn't say, and we just carried on discussing other things...
i benefitted enormously from reading rvf's book a few years ago, though i missed it not having a scripture index.
so i prepared one for my own use, and recently realised others may also find it useful.
it's a word file, 235 kb.
I benefitted enormously from reading RVF's book a few years ago, though I missed it not having a scripture index.
So I prepared one for my own use, and recently realised others may also find it useful. It's a Word file, 235 Kb.
If anyone's interested, I can either email it to you (pm me with your address), or if someone has some web space to spare, I'll copy it over and anyone can download it.
once in a while for some reason or another ill take a look at the official jw website.... their latest magazine is interestingly talking about propaganda.... the wt reads "propaganda tells you what to think" but "good educators present all sides of an issue & encourage discussion".
"propagandists sift the facts...exploit useful ones...distort & twist facts...your emotions not logical thinkin abilities are their target".
this article is under "do not be a victim to propaganda".
I think this is from June 22, 2000 Awake!
g00 6/22 p. 9 Do Not Be a Victim of Propaganda!
"A fool will believe anything."?PROVERBS 14:15, TODAY?S ENGLISH VERSION.
THERE is a difference?a big difference?between education and propaganda. Education shows you how to think. Propaganda tells you what to think. Good educators present all sides of an issue and encourage discussion. Propagandists relentlessly force you to hear their view and discourage discussion. Often their real motives are not apparent. They sift the facts, exploiting the useful ones and concealing the others. They also distort and twist facts, specializing in lies and half-truths. Your emotions, not your logical thinking abilities, are their target...
did the last days begin after jesus' death and continues today.
because i am starting to believe that.
i dont believe in 1914 or that israel becoming a nation started the last days as believed by many fundamentalist.
Flash,
Yes, there are 2 Last Days, ancient Israel's and the whole world's.
As a matter of interest, is there any Scriptural basis for this?
did the last days begin after jesus' death and continues today.
because i am starting to believe that.
i dont believe in 1914 or that israel becoming a nation started the last days as believed by many fundamentalist.
If there was a 'last days' at all, I think they probably began when Jesus died, and ended with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.
Now these things went on befalling them as examples, and they were written for a warning to us upon whom the ends of the systems of things have arrived. (1 Corinthians 10:11)
five years sure goes by fast .... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/46/1.ashx.
we're busy as ever and there are lots of plans for the future.
there will be some changes in the coming week or so which i will announce later.. in the meantime, happy birthday to us
Thank you Simon and Angharad.
I've learned so much from everyone here, thank you all, too.
Warm love,
Ken
during a dinner conversation with a loyal jw, he mentioned that the society seems to be making stronger statements to jw's.
he mentioned the "keep on the watch" brochure, and how it seemed to be for jw's as well as the public.
he acknowledged the "personal questions" the society were asking us, in the brochure - how pointed and direct they are, even asking you to rank your physical and spiritual activities on a scale of 1 to 10. .
Someone wondered whether 'civil war' will erupt between the 'hard-liners' and the 'liberals' on the GB.
In a sense, there's been on-off 'civil war' between the two factions for the last 25 years (ever since the 'Ray Franz incident'), in a cold-war kinda way.
It's never (yet) broken out into a 'hot' war, but the frequent contradictions between articles in The Watchtower and Our Kingdom Ministry are clear evidence of 'guerilla-type skirmishes' between the two sides.
It is a conflict that can only be won by the TJ faction, as they have the majority vote (even if not-yet-the magic 2/3 majority) on the GB and all future replacements (irrespective of from wherever they may be dredged up!) will have to be acceptable to their 'camp' to get their vote. Any future 'liberal' nominations will be vetoed. So TJ's group can only get stronger and will one day achieve their 2/3 majority
Will there ever be a group splitting off to form a new 'religion'? Highly unlikely, probably. Back in Rutherford's days, the organisation was insignificant and it was no big deal to walk away from it. Nowadays it's a multi-billion-dollar, multi-national organisation. That gives the organisation's officers a lot of power and influence with governments, health authorities, aid agencies and UN affiliates.
Neither faction would willingly walk away from all that money and influence, though once he gets his 2/3 majority, it's possible TJ may force the issue and try to expel any he deems too 'soft.' (Interestingly, this hardening of attitudes neatly parallels general trends in the USA.)
ok gang, i have received the following email.
originally sent march 15, then again on the march 16 and yet again on march 17 (with only the email subject line changed).. .
is this a joke?
You did the best thing, Quotes.
Just think if it was a hoax and you tried call the number, and it was a Ukranian sex chat line at $20 / second...
the website of the german branch says there will be another announcement on march 24th, 2005 in the court case that has been lasting for more than a decade now in which they try get granted the status of a public body.
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i will keep you informed.
Hi GermanXJW ,
Any recent news from the Enquette Commission?
What's happening regarding the state requiring WT to pay pensions to ex-Bethelites?
Thanks.